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You also see in his concerts how the audience appreciates you. It was unbelievable at Las Ventas Bullring...

Thank God, people are starting to recognize me...

Starting?

I think so.

Duquende (Photo: Daniel Muñoz)

Both ‘Samaruco’ and the previous record with Tomatito keep on getting really good comments...

I think they're albums that need time to be understood. When you listen to them, each day you appreciate some new detail; they're not the kind to listen to just once. When ‘Samaruco’ came out, even young people criticized me, saying the taranta wasn't a taranta; young people got angry with me. They used to say it was really weird. Over time, those same people have told me how hard ‘Samaruco’ is, how nice it is, that every time they listen to it, they like it more. That encourages you.

And are there any songs on this album that can happen to?

This album is like more professed. People's ears are trained to say "olé" where they're supposed to. You can see the feeling on this album really quickly. Though it's really deep, it's really fun; I like it a lot. Like I say, it's perfect for in the car.

Some flamencos are trying to recover the naturalness of the old recordings. Did you record anything live at the studio?

No, because I did a live album in Paris which will be coming out here in a few months. I want it to give a bit of a margin to the studio record. I recorded where Camarón recorded. We listened to it the other day and it sounded good to us. I like that album; we'll see how it's received.

There have been varied projects such as ‘Qawwali Jondo’ during this time. What has that contributed to you?

It's been a very good experience. I was lucky to have Miguel Poveda at my side and those musicians who are too much. They've got really nice voices and they do other stuff which also has a lot to do with flamenco. I think Miguel and I really noticed the bites with the singer's voice and sometimes, Pakistani stuff comes out unintentionally.

Is the tour with the new repertoire already being prepared?

We're getting a tour ready around Central America.

It seems like the right time now that Diego el Cigala has lifted the ban on flamenco in Latin America...

It's always harder for cante flamenco to reach people, but when people know you... they end up getting into it.

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