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DIGITAL ENCOUNTER
María
Pagés, bailaora
December 21st, 2009, 12
p.m. (Spanish time)
Bailaora and choreographer
María Pagés, who is presenting
her latest show ‘Autorretrato’ at
the Naves del Español in Madrid and is
already getting the celebration ready for her
company’s 20th anniversary, has responded
online to questions from Flamenco-world.com’s
readers. Read the complete encounter now.
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| Name:
Gema
City, country: Valencia
Question: María,
you were given the National Dance Prize
for Creation. Did you feel it to be
a responsibility? I’m tired of
hearing that "everything’s
been invented". Do you think that’s
the way it is, or, to the contrary,
that there’s still a lot to be
done in flamenco dancing? Thanks. Best
wishes.
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María
Pagés: I think the phrase
“everything’s been invented”
is quite fatalistic and probably a product
of those who aren’t able to invent.
Luckily flamenco is a lively, current
artform in full evolution; we still
have a lot left to see and live in this
artform with a huge potential for creativity
and all of it will continue in the generations
that will follow us, perhaps growing
in a less numerous but more selective
way.
Kind regards, Gema, and see you soon.
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| Name:
Anne
City, country: France
Question: María,
whenever I see your shows I notice how
original the wardrobe is. Are they ideas
of yours? What role does it play in
your shows? Can flamenco also be renovated
from the wardrobe design?
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María
Pagés: I’ve always
liked getting really involved in the
wardrobe; in many shows they’re
ideas of mine and I follow them really
closely. In ‘Autorretrato’
and ‘Dunas’, which are the
latest shows, I’ve enjoyed myself
a great deal. I work with a color artist
named María Calderón who
does all the colors and patterns by
hand. I often go to her workshop and
I have the impression of going into
a world of magic; I like it and as I’ve
told you, I really enjoy myself. Also,
in other shows like ‘Sevilla’,
I had the collaboration of another great
artist, painter Christian Olivares;
he designed much of the wardrobe for
‘Sevilla’ and I think it’s
masterful. Specifically, one of his
designs, that of the song ‘Maestranza’,
inspired me with the idea for its choreography.
It’s normally the other way around;
the wardrobes are done after the choreography
has been created. In this case, as you
can see, the influence was really evident.
At any rate, I always look for it to
be comfortable and at the service of
the choreography; that’s fundamental.
Beyond fashion, there’s the esthetics,
good taste, and for it to be another
element of creation.
Thanks for your question, Anne, kind
regards
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| Name:
Marisa
City, country: New
York
Question: María,
Do you plan to do something special
with your company to celebrate its 20th
anniversary?
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María
Pagés: The 20 years
have to be celebrated in grand fashion,
and more so now at this point in time
which I think might be one of the company’s
best moments. We’ll premiere a
creation dedicated to it at Seville’s
Teatro Maestranza in June which we’ll
take on a tour of Japan in autumn.
We’ll be at New York’s City
Center in February. Best wishes, Marisa.
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| Name:
Diego
City, country: Barcelona
Question: Hi, María.
I saw the show ‘Dunas’,
the best thing I’ve seen lately.
Congratulations!!! What was the experience
like with Sidi?
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María
Pagés: It’s been
a unique, special experience with Larbi,
based on respect, admiration and curiosity,
something we coincide on and which has
made us work really well, enjoying ourselves
with delight. I know it isn’t
easy to unite two worlds the way we’ve
done with freedom, without prejudices,
without the pre-established obstacles,
but everything’s flowed for us
without any problems or difficulties.
We’ve worked in another dimension
where it’s the dancing that moves
us and not a specific style; I think
that’s the most interesting thing
about it.
We’ll be back in Catalonia at
the Grec, with ‘Dunas’.
Kind regards to you, Diego.
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| Name:
Suzzanne
City, country: Canadá
Question: Please recommend
us music to study flamenco dancing,
some CDs we should have in our collection
to be able to understand and enjoy this
artform better. Thanks!
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María
Pagés: To dance, it’s
fundamental to listen to a lot of cante,
classical cante mainly and also to know
its evolution. Listen to Tomás
Pavón, La Niña de los
Peines, Antonio Mairena, and also Enrique
Morente, Camarón, Carmen Linares…
In their more classical albums and anthologies,
these latter ones seem the most interesting
to me and you can find them easily.
Kind regards, Suzzanne, we’ll
be in Vancouver in February.
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| Name:
Mari
City, country: Málaga
Question: Hi, María.
My question is: what is the best way
to learn real flamenco dancing? At academies?
In courses at city halls? Is it true
that someone who hasn’t been born
into a world where he’s surrounded
by flamenco can’t have that "duende"
(magic) flamencos have?
Thanks in advance.
MARI. an admirer of yours.
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María
Pagés: Flamenco, like
any artform, isn’t just something
you can learn at academies, although
there are really good ones. You have
to train, it’s true, you have
to put in a lot of effort and study
and rehearse a lot. Flamenco, moreover,
is something really localized and it
needs to be breathed in its environment.
Its environment is always revolving
around its world, its origins, its evolution
and it feeds on itself; I therefore
understand when you ask if it’s
really hard to be a part of flamenco
if you’re not surrounded by it.
That world I’m referring to is
extending more and more and is becoming
more widespread. To learn, take advantage
of the good academies there are, and
the interesting courses.
Thanks for asking, Mari, and enjoy baile;
it’s worthwhile.
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| Name:
Manuel
City, country: Madrid
Question: Hi, María.
No artist likes to give names, but we
enthusiasts love to be recommended good
artists that we should get to know.
Give us some names, at least 3 each
of (not famous) bailaores and bailaoras
that we shouldn’t miss. Thanks
for the shows you do.
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María
Pagés: José Barrios,
José Antonio Jurado, Alberto
Ruiz and Paco Berbel. María Morales,
Sonia Fernández, Isabel Rodríguez,
María del Mar Jurado. They’re
the company’s bailaores and when
the tours allow them to, they work on
and offer their own shows.
Thank you, Manuel, for your interest.
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| Name:
Candela
City, country: Madrid,
Spain
Question: Hi, María.
I saw 'Autorretrato' in Jerez and the
pictures number really touched me. Can
you explain to me what it means? Thank
you for your art.
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María
Pagés: The pictures
represent my origin, my history, my
ancestors, represented in those photos
surrounding you since you were a little
girl. My mother has all of my family’s
history represented on the walls of
her living room, with countless framed
photos of us all, christenings, weddings,
birthdays, family gatherings. It’s
like an album where our history is being
told and it gets bigger as the family
grows. It’s really curious, when
I started putting together ‘Autorretrato’,
I thought of all that and the image
of those golden frames came to mind
which you’ve seen in the show.
Thank you, it’s really good that
like you’ve done, the public asks
these questions; everything’s
more interesting this way and upon knowing
the answer, you’ve known and enjoyed
it better and more.
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| Name:
Mostafa
City, country: Morocco
Question: I love seeing
your baile. Are you planning to release
a DVD of your bailes so as to be able
to see them?
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María
Pagés: We have a lot
of audiovisual material from the Company
and from the creations. To celebrate
our anniversary next year, we’re
going to release them. The DVD of ‘Autorretrato’,
our latest show, will come out soon;
you’ll have news of it at our
website www.mariapages.com.
Thanks, Mostafa, for your interest;
lately we’ve gone to Morocco frequently
and we’ll be back in 2010.
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| Name:
Alfredo
City, country: Barcelona
Question: What’s
the hardest part about doing a new show?
Structuring, giving it a global sense,
choreographing the group bailes? I also
wanted to know the names of the dancers
you’ve used in the last few years;
I think they’re nearly always
the same ones and they do it really
well.
Kind regards
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María
Pagés: Each show has
its features, its own development and
its own life, so it’s different
for each and every one of them. It depends
on the format, on the artists who perform,
etc. But in any case, I think the hardest
thing is to find moderation, harmony
in the show, that which we usually call
achieving a well-rounded show, where
all the elements coming into play, from
the choreography, music, lighting, wardrobe,
and of course, the performers and technicians
work in unison and in a sort of harmony
as I say created for this to be that
way.
It’s true that the company is
really stable and normally those who
join it stay for a long time, but also
because it’s good for everyone
and necessary, there’s continuous
renewal. At this point in time, the
bailaores are: María Morales,
Sonia Fernández, Isabel Rodríguez,
María del Mar Jurado, José
Barrios, José Antonio Jurado,
Alberto Ruiz and Paco Berbel.
Best wishes, Alfredo, and I’ll
have you know that we’ll soon
be in Barcelona.
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FAREWELL
MESSAGE
It’s been really nice to have this chat and
be able to answer your questions which most of the
audience surely think of when they see us. Thanks
a million for your interest and Flamenco-World,
for the good work you’re doing and for giving
us this opportunity.
From the company we offer you the possibility through
our website www.mariapages.com to subscribe to newsletters
and we’ll send you information about tours,
dates, theaters and countries where we’ll
be. For the most curious and active people, we have
our blog.
Best wishes, kindest regards and see you soon.
María Pagés
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