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What with the delays and all, do you
give in to the temptation of constantly touching up what's
been recorded?
Once it's finished I don't even listen to it. They say records
never finish being recorded. The thing is I reached the point
where I had to stop. I'm not going to make any more changes
because if not, I'd never finish it. The last few days of
recording there was a lot of commotion; stick something in
here, change that over there. There came a time when I had
to say period.
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No matter how much personality you might have of
your own, references are always inevitable. What are yours?
It's a very personal album. At least we've tried for it to
be. We've always - I speak in plural because El Bolita and
I have been at the studio for 24 hours - tried to let ourselves
be guided by our hunches and to isolate ourselves from everything.
What I can tell you is that I think Jaime Heredia ‘El
Parrón’, my father, is one of the living cantaores
who does the soleá best. The soleá is the most
important thing in flamenco.
The violins and the contrabass carry great weight
on your upcoming record.
The contrabass adds a lot of weight and a great presence.
It seems to strengthen the contents of the words. The message
in ‘Las madres locas’ has to be told forcefully
and the contrabass is ideal for that.
In the last two years you've only performed twice
in your hometown. Are the demands on your career taken badly?
We've worked in a lot of places but really little in Granada.
Due to the fact you're from Granada, you're offered two performances
a month and that gets old fast, because even though the people
love you, you shouldn't overdo it. That's why I like to pace
myself and not burn out the cities.
You've also changed your look for this album. You've
gone from the ordinary skirt in ‘Me duele me duele’
to a modern bata de cola dress and a perhaps more serious
look.
I've always had a very solid look and I don't like disguising
myself when I come out on stage. When I used to do other songs
I couldn't come out with frills and flowers. I'm a flamenco
artist. That's the way I feel. I like wearing a good dress
on stage. Jeans are for going shopping. My dresses aren't
typical frilled dresses. I'm very presumptuous and I really
like to put on make-up, especially for work.
You're going to perform soon at the Albaycín
Festival. What do you think of the traditional flamenco festivals
without any acoustics? Do they still make sense nowadays?
Horrible. This Albaycín one is one of the few exceptions,
but in general there are things that are unbelievable that
shouldn't be like that. They'd rather spend the money on bringing
in another cantaor and make the festival longer than use that
money for a sound company. In my case, I'm not into most of
those festivals. It's a touchy subject.
You're going to perform in Japan soon. A concert
with those technical means would be unthinkable there …
Obviously. That's their bread and butter. Even so, their
following is so great that bad sound wouldn't matter to them.
Marina Heredia (Photo: Daniel
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It seems as though the artists from your generation
are following a similar path. Arcángel, Miguel Poveda...
We're at a great moment in time. We might be lacking in great
figures like there used to be. Some will say there's no longer
a Caracol or a Camarón, but when a hundred years have
gone by, some of the ones now will be appreciated the way
Mairena can be considered nowadays. You've got to let artists
mature so that they can forge their own legend. That can't
be done overnight. A lot of people will come out. I like listening
to everybody; it doesn't always have to be Poveda or Arcángel.
There's a kid in Jerez called David Lagos who's got a very
personal voice and he knows cante really well. In La Línea
there's Chocolate's nephew, who's called El Pulga, who's unbelievable
doing seguiriyas. Flamenco is at its best moment.
You started off as a bailaora together with Estrella
Morente. Your maestra, Angustias la Mona, says that since
you two were so bad at it, she decided to have you sing. Is
that true?
We weren't that bad. We were just a little bad. They couldn't
bring themselves to tell us to quit dancing until we ourselves
did it on our own. In the end we changed fields. We liked
baile because at that age it caught our attention more. Thank
God we changed to cante. Afterwards we started singing as
a game at Peña Platería with Manolillo Liñán,
El Charico, Miguel Ángel Cortés.
You have this so pent-up inside that you seldom do
a little dancing on stage …
I don't know. I don't always do it. Just when I feel like
it because I'm not used to it.
Do you think that to pay tribute to a mythical cantaora,
you need to do your hair up like in the twenties?
Well, everyone does what he thinks is best at the time. I
think everyone has their personality marked clearly. You yourself
have to know where you stand. We're not in the twenties now.
We're a little bit further along. We're very young and it's
OK for us to make mistakes as long as it's not somebody else
who trips you up.
The institutional support received by flamenco over
the past few years has created malaise amongst musicians from
other styles. Do you think it's fair?
We've just had subsidies for five years and have spent five
years broke. If pop sells three million copies and flamenco
three thousand, they've got no reason to complain. Besides,
as far as I know, rock comes from England and flamenco is
something of ours. I've really been feisty lately and nobody
should get offended by what I say. The record company question
has riled me up.
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