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The bailaor who takes on the role of choreographer
or stage director is often heavily criticized in flamenco...
That's something I don't want to be accused of. It's not
that I don't feel ready; most of the production is going to
be my work. But we're talking about my first time and I want
to be able to count on those maestros I admire, who have more
experience and wisdom of age than I do.
Fuensanta la Moneta
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Do you have any definite influences?
I don't like to name names. But of course Javier Latorre,
Matilde Coral...
There are a lot of people who draw parallels with
the temperament of Manuela
Carrasco...
Well I've never taken classes with her and I'd love to -
let's see when I can get it organized. But of course she's
a role model. I see Manuela Carrasco as one of the main exponents
of flamenco, you have to stop at her door, you have to draw
on her talent. I always name Manuela Carrasco, Eva
Yerbabuena and Carmen Amaya. To me those three - and just
look how little they have in common - are the maximum exponents
of flamenco. Anyone who wants to know a little about baile
has to see them, study them, know about them. I also like
loads of other people. I mean, take Matilde Coral. And she
has nothing in common with the others either. I've always
said that variety is the spice of life. You have to be your
own person; you have to be yourself on stage. And one day
Javier Latorre told me I had to learn from everyone, from
every style, that I shouldn't just fit into a certain pigeonhole
of just one style, because that’s how you develop your
own style, all of your own. If you always keep the same model,
you'll end up dancing like that... or rather imitating it,
because you're never going to dance like somebody else: that
person is unique.
Do you find it difficult to find a style of your
own?
No. Since I was really little it's something I've been really
clear about, that when I dance I am myself and I dance the
way I feel. Not being clear about that is a really serious
problem. You can do what others are doing if you feel that
way but if not, why bother? Because it's the latest thing?
Because it's in fashion? You'd be cheating yourself. You have
to do what you feel, or just what you know how to do. A person
isn't a machine, you can't do every style. Everyone does some
things better than others. It isn't something that's worried
me because when you get up there on stage you are yourself
and... How do you manage in front of all those people watching
you? Well, just by being yourself.
In a recent interview
with Pastora Galván on our website, she said that
women “should make up for their feet with everything
else, because if not you end up getting bored”. Do you
agree with her?
I agree. It's also true that nobody likes a woman who's all
armwork, all aesthetics. Baile has its moments for breaking
out, coming to a halt, pausing for breath, strolling, soaring,
wounding oneself... And its moments for furious footwork and
for showing what you can do with your body. I think every
detail is important in baile flamenco, right down to the last
eyelash. Your hair, your head, how you move your hips, you're
a woman and you have to be feminine. And when you have to
throw yourself headlong into it, well go ahead.
Carmen comes back humming from her soundcheck. La Moneta
becomes silent once again and gives a shy smile. The veteran
cantaora understands the situation and offers to leave, but
the young bailaora continues resolutely. Let's talk about
cante, then.
What type of flamenco vocals and guitar inspires
you?
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I like to delve into the past. To understand what my cantaores
are doing, I need to know where the stuff they're doing today
comes from, the well from which they all drink: La
Niña de los Peines, Antonio Chacón, Manuel
Vallejo... I listen to them because I like vintage material,
but you also have to change with the times. I also like to
listen to guitar albums; Paco de Lucía drives me crazy,
Vicente Amigo too... Later I want the people around me when
I dance to be artists whose cante inspires me. The ones that
I take with me I know are some of the best there are, I don't
just take them because everybody else does. José
Valencia, for example, you see his name all over the place.
I take them because when they open their mouths and give what
they've got, they make an impact. I take them because they
make me dance.
Do you ask them to perform what you'd like, or do
you go with the flow?
Both things. For example, if I'm dancing a solo por seguiriyas
and their heart says follow it with a martinete, who am I
to stop them? Ole! That's what true talent is all about. That's
where the so-called duende comes into play, weaving its mischief...
If a lyric comes to them, well out with it - I'll worry about
how to dance to it. They know what they're doing and they're
flamenco artists through and through. And they go up on stage
and they're giving you their all, they're totally engaged,
they're there with you.
And are you curious about other musical styles, other
instruments?
I love belly dancing. I can dance a little too. I haven't
studied with anybody, I dance my way. Granada has a huge Moorish
influence, there are loads of really Arabic places with shows.
In fact I've danced at some: I did light-hearted 'flamenquito'
when I was little. And every time I find out about something,
I go. Once I did an Arabian-flamenco fusion show with two
Arabian dancers, and I danced a number where we mixed flamenco
and Arabian music. Flamenco is what I like best, but I love
world music, not just Arab music but Portuguese, and Brazilian
music has a sensitivity... I think I should study more and
I should draw more on other artforms, other types of dance,
other musical styles. I should study more flamenco too for
that matter! I get angry with myself, you get very demanding.
This is all about continuous learning because flamenco is
evolving, there's always someone appearing on the scene who
does things differently from the rest, there are always new
things around. And you have to be right there ready for them.
And there we left them in the dressing room, together,
Carmen Linares and Fuensanta la Moneta. One, a veteran Dame
of cante. The other, a rising star of baile. A few hours later,
both brought the audience to their knees.
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