Pastora Imperio
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Historic interview with Pastora Imperio, flamenco bailaora

“I’d like to be always roving,
following my gypsy caravan”

Flamenco-world.com, January 2008

Literal transcription from the magazine ‘Por esos mundos’ in Madrid. Interview signed by Duende and published on June 1st, 1913

WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE LIKED TO BE? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE?

This personal, up-close question, absolutely confidential in most cases, has stopped being a secret thanks to the skill of the top Spanish reporter. Especially for POR ESOS MUNDOS, the controversial Duende has made a very interesting enquiry which we offer to readers.

Julia Fons.- Chairman of the Council of Ministers.- The Countess of Pardo Bazán.- “El Gallo”.- Pastora Imperio.- Benavente.- María Guerrero.- Fernando Díaz de Mendoza.- “La Fornarina”.- Sorolla

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Pastora Imperio
(Photo Alonso, Nuevo Mundo)
 

Pastora Imperio

The Sevillian dancer was in Barcelona. My affairs didn’t allow me to make the trip, as I would have liked.

And I decided to consult with the green-eyed artist over the phone.

It rang.

-Barcelona, speaking! - an employee said.

And Pastora Imperio’s nice voice asked:
-Duende?
-Pastora?-I asked.
-What do you want from me?
-First, to say hello to you.
-Thank you very much!...
-Are you working in Barcelona now?
-Yes, Duende; here I am dancing garrotines...
-Of course! The audience must like you very much, like everywhere...
-They applaud me a lot... The audience is really affectionate with me; every night I have to dance three or four things for them.
-And what do the crowds like the most, in view of everything you’ve worked on?
-The garrotín.
-Will you return to Madrid soon?
-Yes, in July; to Romea.
-What about America?
-I have a lot of offers; but I’m really afraid of the sea...
-Well now, Pastora; and you, what would you like to be? What would you have liked to be?...
-What do you mean, Duende?
-If you weren’t the popular dancer Pastora Imperio, what would you like to be? What would you have liked to be?...
A pause.
-Pastora!...-I say, thinking the line’s been cut off. Pastora!...
-Duende!...
-Did you hear me?
-Yes...
-I thought we’d been cut off...
-No, it’s just that...
Another pause.

 

Pastora Imperio, Nuevo Mundo

-Duende!- Pastora tells me with a vibrant voice.
-Pastora!
-If I weren’t the dancer Pastora Imperio today, do you know what I’d like to be?
-No...
-Well, I’d like for nobody to notice me, for nobody to pay attention to me, for nobody to talk about me; I’d like to go through life unnoticed... I’d like to be always roving, following my gypsy caravan...
Silence.
-Pastora!...
-Did you hear?- Pastora asks me.
-Yes.
-Well that’s what I’d like to be, and better yet, that’s what I’d like to have been, and if you want it clearer, that’s what should have been...
-What you’re telling me is really picturesque...
-Well that’s the way I feel it, Duende, I swear it...
And over the phone I hear the smack of a kiss which Pastora surely gave to the cross her fingers were holding to formalize her gypsy oath.
Afterwards I hear a sigh and to cheer up the beautiful dancer, I exclaim:
-Did you know I’ve just come back from Seville?
-Yeah?... You’ve been to my hometown?...
-Yeah; and I bet you don’t know who I talked to there?...
-Who?...
- Rafael...
- Rafael?
-Yeah; “El Gallo”... your husband...
-How is he?...
-Good, I saw him in his garden.
-Were you in the garden?
-Yeah; I spent an afternoon with him there...
-Tell me, Duende and... A hoarse, resounding voice exclaims:
-It’s over!...
And I no longer hear Pastora’s voice.

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Pastora Imperio, Nuevo Mundo

Strange! Over the phone I heard the dancer’s funny voice with her typical Andalusian lisp.
And I thought of her enigmatic, sphinx-like, sibyl-like, grayish-green eyes...
And upon hanging up the telephone receiver, I saw the statuesque figure of the dancer rising up on stage, hunched up like a cat, clacking the castanets, with musical rhythm... twisting with strange elasticity in the hieratic quivering of a sacred dancer, mixed with the inflaming sensual throbbing of Greek dancing engraved in Moorish swinging...
Pastora Imperio, triumphant, had achieved her success through the strict delicacy of her esthetic surface; the feline flexibility of her body, which didn’t seem to have any bones; the correctness of the lines throughout her figure, the native art which drove her natural movements, which upon twisting her arm sketched a delightful figure; her mouth, fresh, her eyes, green...
And recalling her words I saw her, roving, in the sunshine on the road, all along the way; in the tents of the encampment; unknown, forgotten, insignificant; with her brightly-colored skirt, her coral back combs buried in the curls of her ebony hair... dancing, during a break in the march, amidst the gypsies of the caravan... without the audience’s applause!... without the brilliance of glory!... without the lights and music and sequins!...
Happy?... Who knows! In her gypsy caravan, she’d always be Pastora... but without Imperio (an Empire).

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